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Islam and Christianity share ‘idea of conquest’, says Pope Francis

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  1. If PF said, “Islam and Christianity share the ‘idea of conquest'” it proves he is not of Christ as only world religions, doctrines of men and fallen angels share ideas of conquest. Religious spirits conquest; Christ Jesus does not harm, kill innocents, nor take in conquest, but gives the royal Kingdom of his Father to ALL human beings who receive Him. Jesus did NOT bring a new religion; he brought the anointing of God as the Messiah for all who AWAKEN and receive Christ’s Light by merely asking and receiving!
    Christ Jesus is not a religion, he is the perfect relationship with our Father and true God of gods, and he shares his Father’s Kingdom, Love, Light, and the Spirit of God with us; giving (not taking in conquest) every good endowment, every perfect gift, full inheritance in the kingdom of God as co-heirs with Christ, giving us spiritual gifts, wisdom, understanding, revelation, counsel, power, might, knowledge of God (not satanic knowledge of good and evil and conquests), reverential awe, and the Spirit of the Lord to us to rise above the world of men and world issues as a new creation made in the image and likeness of Christ who looks and acts just like his Father and God, who is now our Father and God because of the finished work of the cross!
    Christ is perfect love, perfect peace, fullness of joy, perfect life, perfect health, perfect harmony and he GIVES it all to us (never takes in conquest). For God so LOVES us that he gave us his Christ! PF’s focus on poverty, climate change and other “worldly” issues proves he is of the world, not of Christ. Jesus the Christ brought the kingdom of heaven on earth to us and placed his kingdom within us; all we have to do is believe Jesus and receive his Christ within to share in the inheritance of Light, Love, and the Spirit of God who inhabits his people and gives every perfect gift!
    Do not fall for the counterfeit, satan disguised as an angel of light, or any powers or principalities of darkness, disguised as servants of righteousness; ask and receive ONLY the true Light that enlightens every human being: our Lord Jesus the Christ of God! Receive his anointing and it will teach you everything! Receive his Holy Spirit and fire and be empowered by the true Head of all rule and authority: Christ Jesus, the King of kings and Lord of lords, Faithful and True, the Word of God, and the pure, holy, Spirit of God!!!!!!!

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  2. I didn’t read it too carefully but I took the Pope’s comments to mean that historically, these religions have exhibited these traits. I really do not think he is condoning the idea of conquest. To me, he shows a good track record of identifying and challenging real shortcomings.

    The other point is that the Christian Bible contains not only the peaceful New Testament but also the often bellicose Old Testament (with a few variations re so-called apocryphal books).

    How the two narratives of the OT and NT fit together – or do not – is a topic of much scholarly and probably pastoral debate.

    Thanks for your comment. 🙂

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  3. Jesus brought the new covenant and knowledge of God as our Father who is good and loving; he fulfilled the law that killed, and brought the Spirit that gives Life, so we could come to our Father through grace, mercy, lovingkindness, compassion, and forgiveness of the new covenant. The old covenant was for those separated from God by sin; Jesus atoned for the sin as a sacrifice once and for all so we can ALL come to Jesus and be reconciled to God our Father in perfect oneness. The old testament is all about Jewish law; the new testament is about perfect love (Christ) from our Father through the Holy Spirit that gives life.
    There is no scholarly debate that can compare with the direct knowing of our invisible Father through knowing the visible Son and experiencing the Holy Spirit.

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    • I think one of the problems that arises with your last sentence is that many people claim to experience the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Yet they still fight and bicker among themselves.

      So from my perspective, it’s quite possible that person “A” has certain experiences that they believe are the highest high. With that personal experience, they then associate, internally legitimize and try to spread their own particular interpretation of the Bible story.

      This seems to be what many people do, be they solo believers or members of some organized group.

      So my question… what is the criterion (or perhaps criteria) for “knowing” that we really have experienced the highest high and not, for example, some vitalistic thrill?

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      • The fruit demonstrates which tree: the mixed fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil or the all good, wholesome, fruit of the tree of life (Christ, the Living One alive forever more). The tree of life gives the spiritual fruit of the Holy Spirit. The fruit of the Holy Spirit is love, peace, joy, gentleness, goodness, kindness, patience, self-control and full of faith (faith is the conviction and evidence of faith, the substance and assurance of hope). If one is eating the “fruit of lies” there will be mixed fruit of good and evil; mixed wine. If one is eating of the tree of life, there will only be the spiritual fruit of the Holy Spirit. Jesus said you will know which tree a person is by the fruit in their life.

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      • There is no “problem” when we go direct to our Father through Jesus, the Christ of God!

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  4. But the NT also says we are to be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. It doesn’t exclusively advocate some kind of blind, unthinking faith, imo.

    The other point I’ve been thinking about over the years is related to the theme you mention… Testing by the fruit. I believe that was in the context of testing spiritual influences. One thing I find problematic about that is… Just how do we test? Does the obvious good result happen in this life or the next? If the next, then what might superficially appear evil or perhaps misguided might actually be good, and vice versa.

    I think many Christians project “the devil” onto others out of ignorance, lack of self-knowledge or lack of insight. But we are human beings, given a mind to think. So we should not behave like unthinking animals. We should use the gift of thought that God gave us. Develop it.

    That’s just my quick answer. 🙂

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